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Re: CDM Regulations

Added: 17:17 21.03.2008

I beleive the regulations have bedded down nicely on the larger projects and most SME`s have embraced the regs.
I dont think they are working to full capacity and i dont think the regs are doing what it says on the tin, for one reason and one reason only. They are not being policed properly.

Most companies are still flaunting the rules because they can, let me qualify that statement, they have all applied the Regs, when they have had no promised visits from HSE( this was promised before the Regs were released, that HSE were going to police these Regs thoroughly) the big hype died to a wimper. They now pay the Regs lip service. Appoint a CDMC do the F10 and H&S File. The essence of the Regs is not upheld Pre,Post contract in that the design is not questioned enough as regards designing out risks. I still come across designers, QS`s, Architects who havent got a clue about CDM. These people frighten me as they are supposed to be the educated ones, as a trainer Ihave seen most of these people on my CDM courses, yet they do not transfer the purpose of the Regs into there designs. We are still asking the same questions in meetings, where is the mansafe system, how are we going to clean the windows of the front of the office , because the designer has designed a unusual glass fronted office. I am all for individual design, but desginers know what is required and yet they still design.

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  • CDM Regulations

    How have the revised CDM regulations bedded down since their introduction?

    Kellie Mundell, Community Editor

    kellie.mundell | 16:34 29.02.2008
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      I've been retired for three and a half years, and have most definitely lost touch with the CDMs. We had a design department who were very heavily involved in CDMs with both our large and small contractors, but I did ...

      paul-a.fleet | 16:47 29.02.2008
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        I agree. The stumbling blocks I've come across is the fact that having set up fairly rigorous procedures for contractors in all the organisations - what they're going to do and how they're going to do it in the form ...

        john-anthony.hill | 17:07 29.02.2008
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      I beleive the regulations have bedded down nicely on the larger projects and most SME`s have embraced the regs.
      I dont think they are working to full capacity and i dont think the regs are doing what it says on ...

      Bugsy | 17:17 21.03.2008
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      Is there anything about these regulations that are favourable?

      kellie.mundell | 17:05 29.02.2008
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        It is favourable in that it systemises everything. We were doing some building work and I monitored it once a week. At one point, the contractor decided that he didn't want to do what he was supposed to do. He ...

        john-anthony.hill | 17:12 29.02.2008
      • Re: CDM Regulations

        In my experience, it's a mixed bag. There are still a number of clients out there who for whatever reason it may be - lack of knowledge, lack of willingness, poor attitude - where the amended legislation on CDM hasn't ...

        John Nelson | 17:20 29.02.2008
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          The HSE is being stripped of funding and isn't able to do what it used to be able to do.

          democrat | 10:18 07.03.2008
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            I appreciate that. This is very broad question for a number of people. Anything we implement in society in the workplace, a procedure or legislation, we have to go through that period of communicating information before we can start to ...

            John Nelson | 10:20 07.03.2008
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              I agree, but going on the facts we should really know at least a little bit about the CDM Regs because they came in in the mid-1990s. If it's bedded down all this time now and we're just doing slight ...

              democrat | 10:21 07.03.2008
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                I don't think they bedded down in the first place to be fair.

                John Nelson | 10:22 07.03.2008
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                  Well, fair enough, there were lots of rushed elements to it and some confusion over minor points, but the basics - if you read the legislation - are fairly straightforward. It can be done in such a way that you ...

                  democrat | 10:23 07.03.2008
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                    I understand where you're coming from, but I think it's wider than that. It's more to do with implementation. Whether it's due to people's attitude, understanding or knowledge base, the people fulfilling the role of CDM co-ordinator for contractors vary ...

                    John Nelson | 10:25 07.03.2008
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                      I've only had involvement in CDM where the organisation concerned have had the full input from engineering. The practical side of it has come to the fore and the CDM has been built around the practical side.

                      democrat | 10:26 07.03.2008